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Sunday, 12 June 2011

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Rory Holland

Hi, according to the page at the end of this comment, it is not usually illegal to offer single-sex services in this way:

" the Sex Discrimination Act allows facilities to be restricted by sex where the potential user-group would be seriously embarrassed by the presence of the opposite sex, or where the users are likely to be in a state of undress."

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/advice-and-guidance/your-rights/gender/sex-discrimination-in-public-services/sex-discrimination-in-the-public-services-your-rights/

JH

Yes, add to that Colwyn leisure centre in Conwy also has the sexist policy. Does anyone know how we would go about reporting such cases of sex discrimination?

John Kimble

It's not entirely clear cut whether this sessions are illegal or not. From my previous reading on this subject it appears such sessions are illegal unless the council has undertaken the necessary research/surveys to establish whether such sessions are wanted/needed.

Therefore the easiest way to stop the sessions is to request this evidence. Many won't have it therefore meaning the sessions are inappropriate and not allowable.

mananon

Silly question, but why don't these councils hold men-only swimming sessions, then men and women both can have single-sex swimming opportunities.

Oh of course, men-only would be called 'sexist'. Silly me!

John Kimble

Mananon - some of the less sexist councils do that - see the last line of the post

JH

I'm sure in certain parts of the country they could get enough people wanting a 'whites-only' swimming session. But of course (quite rightly) they would never get away with that!

Natalie

You need to do your research properly before you jump to conclusions - I live in Tower Hamlets, one of the boroughs on your list, and there is a men-only swimming session on a Monday night at the pool in Shadwell!

John Kimble

So one men only session in Shadwell. This compares to 12 women only sessions in the borough. Is that really equality?

http://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/lgsl/601-650/644_leisure_centres_and_facili/swimming.aspx

Even worse, it seems that the women only sessions are far cheaper than regular sessions, therefore men are not just excluded but also expected to pay more on the rare occasions they can attend! A regular swim in Tower Hamlets is £4.20, whereas women only sessions cost £1.
http://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/idoc.ashx?docid=b16929df-c69c-4243-a1a3-963d0841eab3&version=-1

Thanks for promoting me into doing some digging here Natalie, things are far worse than Skimmington suggested, so he does indeed need to do his research though not quite in the direction you suggested.

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