The Rights Of Man

O2 AND SYMANTEC ADMIT THAT FATHERS RIGHTS AREN'T HATEFUL

I haven't heard any updates from O2 and Symantec recently over their defamation and censorship of men's human rights sites, so I decided to reexamine the list of sites (it now stands at almost 90). It seems to have been worth my while and there is a least a little good news.

Previously, following my complaints, Glenn Sacks of Fathers and Families had his site unblocked, similalrly the other unblocked site also pertained to fathers' issues. O2 appeared to be standing by their hate smears, indicating as such on Twitter just yesterday and have not mentioned any more sites being unblocked. In reality, my testing shows a number of additional father related sites have been unblocked and are no longer suffering this vile defamation. These include:

• http://www.angrydad.blogspot.com
• http://www.framedfathers.blogspot.com

This now leaves father-related sites as quite a small minority on the "hate" list, and suggests that Symantec and O2 are slowly coming round to the idea of equality for fathers being a legitimate issue. Of course it goes without saying that they are still firmly against any other men's issues being addressed such as rape, abuse, false imprisonment and domestic violence. The only other possible scenario is that they just have absolutely no idea what they're doing.

In total O2 and Symantec have now reclassified eight sites since I started this exercise, others include the following:

http://www.gabnet.com/lit/demoh10.htm
http://www.barnoz.wordpress.com
http://www.rulymob.com
http://www.womenagainstvawa.org (wasn't actually smeared as hate, but wrongly censored due to being given a "pornography" classification)

I've no idea if Symantec and O2 have apologised to the owners of those sites, though given that they haven't even publicised the unblocking, I doubt there has been any communication never mind a much needed apology. Perhaps site owners can confirm this? Anyway, just another 80 to go….

by John Kimble

SEVEN MORE MEN'S HUMAN RIGHTS SITES SMEARED AND CENSORED BY SYMANTEC

Given the renewed interest in the topic of censorship of mens' human rights sites, I decided to test a few more sites.

The censorship problem is worsening and I've discovered more excellent resources being blocked such as the brilliant false rape society blog. Perhaps my personal favourite from this new batch is Daddyjustice.com, the site of Ben Vonderheide, a truly dedicated and hugely successful activist committed to tackling injustice and corruption. Be sure to pay the site a visit to counter these attempts attempt to deny him traffic. Here's  Daddy Justice in action, lets hope O2 and Symantec watch it and see exactly who are the truely hateful and violent ones:

 

Sites Symantec/O2now classes as "hateful" include:

• dadsandthings.com
• daddyjustice.com
• falserapesociety.blogspot.com
• feministcritics.org
• judgybitch.com
• menaregood.com
• sonsofperseus.blogspot.com
• the-spearhead.com

As you can see, Symantec's misnadry is now so extreme that even suggesting "men are good" appears to result in the "hate site" tag. I'll shortly be adding hte seven sites above to the main list showing all the wrongly blocked and defamed sites.

On the plus side of things, I've now put so much work into this and tested so many sites, that I appear to have inadvertently created an impressive directory of high quality men's human rights sites, so once again the feminist censorship backfires. Readers are more than welcome to take my list and create a men's rights directory.

by John Kimble

 

Update - just found a couple more sites that are being blocked and defmamed:

http://eternalbachelor.wordpress.com/

http://triggeralert.blogspot.com/

STARMER AND CROWN PROSECUTION SERVICE MISLEAD OVER FALSE ALLEGATIONS

When Kier Starmer, the woeful Director of Public Prosecutions dropped his bombshell two weeks ago that false allegations were very rare so are not worth the attention they get - it was deliberately misleading and showed that the establishment continues to be got at and is too scared to tackle the issue. The Crown Prosecution Service are all too happy to roll over because it involves men who are falsely accused.

 The report and research is deliberately misleading (it is not the first research as it claims - The Stern Review is clear that false allegations exist and could be 8-10% - see notes to editors about what the report says) because as the excellent False Allegations Support Organisation point out - hardly any cases ever get referred by the police to the CPS and the CPS themselves then block most of those from going to court.

By trying to downplay the effect that false allegations has, the CPS are of course both deliberately choosing to ignore the harm and hurt that it does to those men falsely accused but also to those who have been raped. When do you hear the CPS, the Guardian or anti-rape groups turning on those who make false accusations - they never do.

There is nothing wrong with the CPS wanted to put things into context but its messaging means it is harder for any man who has been falsely accused because the police and CPS will say "our own research says it is very rare so you must be guilty." This is made worse by the coalition government's backtracking on its pledge to give rape defendents anonymity unless found guilty.

On another note, those who have been following the Coronation Street story, will have been concerned on how the story was going to turn out as Tyrone's fiance who was beating him, then made a false accusation. Thankfully, as it want to court she admitted it was all false . This is a storyline that would have made Starmer cringe. Good.

Posted by Skimmington

Notes to editors

The Stern review says "We do know that the effect on those who are falsely accused can be severe. The public holds very strong views about sex offenders. Those who have been under suspicion, maybe for months, perhaps remanded in custody awaiting trial, are likely to suffer considerably from the allegation having been made. Even when they have been cleared and the allegation has been established as false, they may still face suspicion from those they know."

 

NEWS UPDATE

Sorry everyone for letting things slip the past three weeks- its been hellish at work. Hopefully things are better now. Anyhow, here are some latest news and thanks to those who have supplied them:

Mike Buchanan: Compendium of recent media interviews and his article on Politics.co.uk - Some of the opposition to Mike's comments show the sexism that in endemic against men.

BBC News (Kent): Rochester nightclub's cleavage stunt condemned - Free entry for women to the nightclub again even if somewhat unsavoury

BBC News: Male identity crisis not due to feminism (Diane Abbott MP)

BBC News: Boys suffer poor body image say teachers (Katherine Sellgren)

BBC News: Helen Grant Minister to overhaul community sentencing to make them more female friendly - More inistitutional bias, can you imagine the government looking at more male-friendly sentencing? Fuller interview in Independent and you can see this in action for Vicky Pryce.

A Voice for Men: Spanish Feminist Establishment is shaking

Daily Telegraph: UCAS men are becoming the disadvantaged group (Tim Ross)

Guardian: False allegations are few and far between (Kier Starmer) - Pure mischievous bias from the laughable misandric Directory of Public Prosecutions. Full press release here. 

Daily Mail - Women lose out in pension revolution  - As Groan says "Typical; reporting by the DM. Leads off with 'poor women' headline yet the actual story is rather different as the women concerned will still be able to claim their pension earlier than men in this age cohort. A fact never explained by the DM. Of course they will also, on average, enjoy a longer life."

Huffington Post : Female Tory MP's tell Cameron to appoint more women 

Daily Mail - Butler Sloss apogises to F4J

 For other good sources of news - please add Helping Men and Fighting Feminism to your favourites amongst others.

Posted by Skimmington 

O2 AND SYMANTEC DEFAME AND CENSOR MORE MEN'S HUMAN RIGHTS SITES BY THE DAY

O2 AND SYMANTEC  DEFAMING AND CENSORING MORE MEN'S HUMAN RIGHTS SITES
BY THE DAY

Once again I've been busy monitoring what O2 and Symantec have been getting up to with regard to their censorship of human rights sites, and rather than fixing the problem things are getting worse!

Last month an article at The Register featured extensive quotes from members of the excellent UK blog MRA London regarding the censorship and hate site issue and condemning the actions of the companies responsible. The article correctly pointed out that MRA London wasn't even a victim of the censorship and they were simply concerned for their friends at avoiceformen and the wider men's movement.

Well it may well be a coincidence, or perhaps it's payback, but what we know for sure is that MRALondon have now been blocked as a "hate site" too. The MRA London team includes people such as Erin Pizzey, so Symantec are O2 and Symantec are branding as "hateful" people such as the UK's most important figure in gaining recognition and support domestic violence victims. How "hateful" it was of her to set up the world's first domestic violence shelter and support so many victims of abuse.

I've also investigated some lesser known sites  and even older sites that are no longer with us to give complete picture of the situation. This demonstrates not the the sheer scale of this problem, but also just how long it has been going on for. That now makes 87 domains censored at some point, with the current total standing at 84. See my prevous article for examples of O2/Symantec's most sickening cases of censorship.


Here's all the new entires for the roll of honour, again many congratulations to all those on it:

http://anirishmanagainstfeminism.blogspot.com
http://antifeminism.mathews.me.uk/
http://battlinbog.blog-city.com/
http://beatdeaddaddy.freewebtools.com/
http://callumphoenixrising.blogspot.com/
http://www.cooltools4men.com/
http://dhdiary.blogspot.com
http://www.dontmakehermad.com/
http://framedfathers.blogspot.com
http://www.genderwar.org/
http://www.hatemalepost.blogspot.com
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/verismo/
http://league-of-anti.blogspot.com
http://www.mens-network.org
http://mensaction.net
http://mens-links.net
http://mensrightsblogs.com
http://misformalevolent.blogspot.com
http://www.mralondon.org
http://siberianow.wordpress.com
http://sxmodels.blogspot.com
http://truthformen.wordpress.com
http://verlch.blogspot.com

by John Kimble

NOW OFFICIAL - O2 AND SYMANTEC BELIEVE HELPING MALE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEX ABUSE IS HATEFUL

By now most people are aware of the issue of men's rights website being wrongly blocked by Symantec and various mobile phone companies due to them somehow being flagged as "hate sites". I've done further investigations and can exclusively reveal the official response from these companies on this matter. There tends to be a bit of confusion about this issue and so firstly I'll attempt to explain what's going on and tackle some misconceptions.

Which sites are blocked?
I initially identified 48 sites blocked by Symantec/O2 and flagged as "hate sites". The list then grew to 58 as even more were identified. It's fair to say that a majority of key sites critical of feminism and supportive of men's rights are blocked. You can see the full list here.

What exactly does this mean for the sites concerned?
The "hate site" classification means a number of users are denied any access, particularly people accessing the internet in some restaurants, workplaces and via mobile phone networks such as Telefonica/O2. In total Symantec claims 250 million users of the filter worldwide, so it could easily mean a 10% reduction in traffic for mens' rights sites.

How long has this being going on?
It is uncertain as to exactly how long this has been an issue. I became aware of the problem in May 2012 though it appears to have been going on in some cases for at least two years. It must have been happening for a considerable length of time as some of the blocked sites no longer exist.

Hold on, I thought avoiceformen.com had been unblocked and Symantec had backed down?
Sadly this is not the case and such a suggestion is based on a false report in the media. Avoiceformen.com was never unblocked at any stage.

I find this all a bit hard to believe, how can I check a site's classification for myself?
There are currently two ways to check whether or not a site has been branded as a "hate site". Users have previously checked a site's status by enabling Norton's DNS service, but a much easier method is O2's url checker.


Other mens' rights activists and even member of the media have had difficulty getting any sort of meaningful response from Symantec so I've taken a different approach and been in touch with O2/Telefonica management. I asked them to classify the blocked websites more appropriately and to stop censoring such content.  Eventually I was put in contact with O2's head of complaints, Antony Gibson, and he confirmed that O2 use the same filter service from Symantec, called Rulespace, thus explaining why the two block lists of the two companies are identical.

Mr Gibson liaised with Symantec and informed me they had reviewed the list and decided to reclassify just 2 out of the 47 sites I presented them with. This therefore means the "hate" classification/block officially stands for the bulk of this content (including avoiceformen.com) and is no accident. Mr Gibson explained that O2/Symantec regarded the sites to be at the "low end" of the spectrum in terms of hate and further explained that they were blocked and classed as "hate sites" due to reasons such as showing "aggression" and/or use of the term "anti-feminism"!

Mr Gibson did express some concern about people seeing men's rights sites listed as hate sites and smeared in this way, but O2's solution to our concerns is that they will disable their url checker so no one can see the reason why a site has been blocked. In other words O2 is fairly happy for the issue of human rights for men to be classed as hateful, their only concern is people finding out that they're taking this stance. So, now we have no just a case of censorship and defamation, but a cover up too!

To compound matters yet further, many of these sites classified as hateful really are incredibly innocuous and deal with very important issues, many don't even use the term "anti-feminist" either nor contain "aggression". Such a term is so vague and ambiguous as to be completely meaningless, and proves absolutely how the filter is arbitrary and a nonsense and completely open to abuse. More importantly, if O2/Symantec have an issue with the term "anti-feminist", then they are quite blatantly taking an extreme political stance in favour of an ideology. Afterall, there's barely any more "aggressive" way of supporting feminist doctrine than to censor and defame anyone who dares critique or correct it.

I think this issue really sums up how important the men's' movement is today, not to mention the scale of the challenge facing us. We see countless feminist activists all over the media campaigning against free speech and equality and seeking privileges for women such as subsidised  insurance premiums. Feminists make endless sexist comments telling men not to rape and even the host of the world's leading feminist radio programme openly laughs at male victims of domestic abuse. Whilst all this has been going on, and despite spending countless hours on the matter,  I've failed with a simple request for companies to stop denying help to male victims of rape and domestic violence. In fact I can't even get these sick companies to remove their "hate site" smear from their classification of these vitally important resources. Perhaps I haven't yet been "aggressive" enough?

Here's a selection of sites O2/Symantec's insist on keeping in their "hate site" category:

http://dvmen.org  - A site in Colorado helping male victims of domestic violence.
http://toysoldier.wordpress.com - A blog highlighting the plight of male victims of rape and abuse.
http://www.ncfm.org  -Website of the longest running men's human rights organisation in the US (founded in 1977).
http://www.fathersforlife.org  - A site seeking for fathers to have a greater role in their children's lives.
http://www.debunker.com/patriarchy.html  - A webpage scientifically debunking the most common feminist myths.
http://disenfranchisedfather.blogspot.co.uk - blog by a fahter who doesnt' get to see his son.


For those who are curious, apparently the only two non-"hateful" men's sites out of the 47 are:
Hisside.com and dadi.org and both are now unblocked.

Update:

O2 have been in touch and would like me to point out that O2 customers who are over 18 can remove the restriction and view any web site they want to by going through their age verificaiton process which can be found here. Customers without a credit card can visit an O2 store with photo ID such as a passport or driving licence.

by John Kimble

The following may or may not be the email addresses of the O2 board members:

Matthew.Kay@o2.com, Pilar.López@o2.com, Ronan.Dunne@o2.com, Trevor.Healy@o2.com, Kate Jarvis@o2.com, Simon.Linares@o2.com, Richard.Poston@o2.com, René.Schuster@o2.com, Stephen.Shurrock@o2.com, David.Arculus@o2.com, Peter.Erskine@o2.com, Cath.Keers@o2.com, Eduardo.Zaplana@o2.com

THE CENSORSHIP AND DEFAMATION OF 10 MORE MEN'S RIGHTS SITES EXPOSED

Previosuly, I promised to keep readers fully up to date on all matters relating to the censorship of men's rights sites by mobile phone companies and Symantec. I'll be bringing readers some big updates on this story in the next few days and in the meantime I can reveal ten more sites wrongly censored and smeared as "hate sites". The total number of sites on the roll of honour therefore now stands at 58.

 

The new sites discovered are:

http://contrafragmentos.blogspot.com

http://countersnippets.blogspot.com

http://www.gabnet.com/lit/demoh10.htm

http://lndavout.blogspot.com

http://www.lbduk.org/ (currently not working)

http://www.mamonaku187.blogspot.co.uk

http://www.menshour.com/ (currently not working, unrelated to the BBC radio show)

http://men.typepad.com/

http://www.theabsolute.net/misogyny/

http://www.ukmm.org.uk/(again not working but made the news quite a bit in its time)

 

by John Kimble

NEWS UPDATES

There has been a few recently and a few sent over:

Some new UK sites:

   Justice for Men and Boys (political party)

    Helping Men (Glen Poole)

   Cornwall Community News (some strong articles on here)

 

A Voice for Men: Interview with London MRA (25 minutes 45 seconds in)

South Wales Argus: Man found not guilty

Cambridgeshire Police: Domestic abuse against men podcast (a first perhaps)

Daily Mail: Men should be afforded anonymity in rape appeals says High County Judge and I agree (Peter Lloyd) and the original news item. John Cooper QC is happy for innocent men to be named though as is Lisa Longstaff of course. Men are collateral damage.

Miss Alisa Place: We can't fix domestic violence if we pretend 40% of victims are not there (Alisa Valdes)

BBC: Project highlights everday sexism against women

Daily Telegraph: Divorced fathers have a hard time (Jonathan Agnew)

Daily Telegraph: Council makes toilets gender neutral (Victoria Ward)

Daily Mail: Judge says conspiracy of silence in place about the value of fathers (Steve Doughty)

BBC Women's Hour: Jenni Murray laughs as wife admits cleaning toilet with ex-husband and toothbrush before he used it (19 min 30 secs in)

The Ignored Gender: Misandry and the Superbowl

Marie Claire: No Men allowed,the rise of the women-only club

Daily Mail: I should not have lied (Janine Yaqoob)

Evening Standard: Labour women-only shortlist (Joe Murphy)

MRA London: Site banned by Norton

The Guardian: On male privilege (Richard Seymour)

Posted by Skimmington 

THE 100 MEN'S HUMAN RIGHTS SITES FEMINISTS SEEK TO CENSOR

In May last year, this blog and its readers broke the story of men's human rights sites been censored and smeared by major mobile phone companies in the UK. It has now emerged that Norton is also smearing most of our movement as hateful, with its DNS service blocking access to many of the most popular sites, this blog included.

It's unsurprising that people would try to censor us in this way and it's particularly disappointing that someone out there is stupid enough to regard this blog as hateful when it's abundantly clear we have no tolerance here for sexism towards anyone, and the whole point of this site is to campaign against sexism and gender hatred.

I've done significant research to find out the true scale the censorship of mens' human rights material and can exclusively reveal the most complete and accurate list of sites currently being blocked. I can also reveal that both O2 and Norton appear to be using the same list for their disgusting censorship. Previous lists of banned sites totalled 21 URLs, my research more than doubles that total to at least 48 sites and 54 urls.

As you can see from the roll of honour below, it's just obscure or slightly confrontational men's human rights sites that are blocked, even more academic resources such as manwomanmyth are barred too. For those yet to utilise this excellent resource, much of it consists of interviews with leading figures on gender issues, such as Erin Pizzey founder of the world's first domestic violence shelters and Michelle Elliot O.B.E. the founder of the children's charity Kidscape. Even completely mainstream figures such Glenn Sacks' nationally syndicated (and no doubt fully FCC compliant) "His Side" radio show don't escape Norton's censors. It's not just the wider men's humans right movement impacted by this scandal, more specific blogs by fathers in support of families are banned, I have to say it's a very strange world Norton are living in where a man's love for his children can be classed as "hate".

Most disturbingly of all, feminists even regard it as hateful to help/support male victims of domestic violence, abuse and even rape victims, with at least two sites solely focused on such subjects blocked under this absurd classification.

If any blog or site owners want to take a stand against this censorship then please add links to some or all of the 48 sites below or promote their articles on Facebook or your favourite forums.

ROLL OF HONOUR

(expanded to 111 sites on 23/05/2013)

• http://www.angrydad.blogspot.com *
• http://www.angryharry.com
• http://anirishmanagainstfeminism.blogspot.com
• http://antifeminism.mathews.me.uk
• http://www.antifeminism.tumblr.com
• http://www.antifeminismus.ch - all 7 domains blocked igaf.ch ig-antifeminismus.ch antifeministen.ch antifeminismus.eu antifeminismus.info antifeminismus.com
• http://www.antifeministtech.info
• http://www.anti-feminist-uk.blogspot.com
• http://www.antifeminism-worldwide.org
• http://www.antimisandry.com
• http://www.articlesformen.com
• http://www.awomanagainstfeminism.blogspot.com
• http://www.avoiceforboys.com
• http://www.avoiceformen.com
• http://www.barnoz.wordpress.com
• http://battlinbog.blog-city.com
• http://beatdeaddaddy.freewebtools.com
• http://callumphoenixrising.blogspot.com
• http://www.contrafragmentos.blogspot.com
• http://www.cooltools4men.com
• http://countersnippets.blogspot.com
• http://www.counterfem.blogspot.com
• http://www.dadi.org
• http://www.daddy.typepad.com
• http://www.daddyjustice.com
• http://www.dadsandthings.com
• http://www.debunker.com/patriarchy.html
• http://dhdiary.blogspot.com
• http://www.dontmakehermad.com/
• http://www.disenfranchisedfather.blogspot.com
• http://www.dvmen.org
• http://www.egghead.adamsspace.com
• http://www.equalbutdifferent.blogspot.com
• http://www.eternalbachelor.blogspot.com
• http://www.eternalbachelor.wordpress.com
• http://www.exposingfeminism.wordpress.com
• http://www.f4jquebec.org
• http://www.failuresforgodesses.blogspot.com
• http://www.falserapesociety.blogspot.com
• http://www.fathers.bc.ca
• http://www.fathersforlife.org
• http://www.feministcritics.org
• http://www.forahouseboy.blogspot.com
• http://www.framedfathers.blogspot.com
• http://www.gabnet.com/lit/demoh10.htm
• http://www.genderwar.org
• http://www.harrysnews.com
• http://www.hatemalepost.blogspot.com
• http://www.hereticalsex.blogspot.com
• http://www.hisside.com
  
• http://homepage.ntlworld.com/verismo
• http://j4mb.wordpress.com
• http://www.judgybitch.com
• http://league-of-anti.blogspot.com
• http://www.liamsdad.org
• http://lndavout.blogspot.com
• http://www.lbduk.org
• http://www.mamonaku187.blogspot.com
• http://www.manamongoaks.com
• http://www.manwomanmyth.com
• http://www.markymarksthoughts.blogspot.com
• http://www.masculistadvice.blogspot.com
• http://www.men.typepad.com
• http://www.menaregood.com
• http://www.mens-links.net
• http://www.mens-network.org
• http://www.mens-rights.net
• http://www.mensaction.net
• http://www.mensactivism.org
• http://www.mensdefense.org
• http://www.menshour.com
• http://www.mensrights-help.com
• http://www.mensrights101.com
• http://www.mensrightsblogs.com
• http://www.mensrightsboard.blogspot.com
• http://www.mensrightsedmonton.com
• http://www.mensrightswiki.org
• http://www.mgtow.com
• http://www.mgtowsurvivalguide.blogspot.com
• http://www.mirrorofthesoul.blogspot.com
• http://misformalevolent.blogspot.com
• http://www.mralondon.org
• http://www.ncfm.org
• http://www.no-maam.blogspot.com
• http://www.register-her.com
• http://www.roymovrich.blogspot.com
  http://www.rulymob.com
• http://siberianow.wordpress.com
• http://www.sonsofperseus.blogspot.com
• http://sxmodels.blogspot.com
• http://www.the-niceguy.com
• http://www.the-spearhead.com
• http://www.theabsolute.net/misogyny
• http://www.theantifeminist.com
• http://www.thenononsenseman.com
• http://www.therightsofman.typepad.co.uk
• http://www.toysoldier.wordpress.com
• http://www.triggeralert.blogspot.com *
• http://www.truthformen.wordpress.com
• http://www.ukmm.org.uk
• http://www.vancouvermra.com
• http://verlch.blogspot.com
• http://www.vjtss.blogspot.com *
• http://www.whatmenthinkofwomen.blogspot.com
• http://www.womenagainstmen.com 

 

Notes:

1. A number of other Mens rights sits are blocked due to being classed as pornography. This list is relatively small in number and thus could possibly constitute accidental blocking rather than a deliberate attempt to deny men their human rights and free speech. The above list only consists of sites blocked and smeared as hateful.

2. Sites marked with "*" can be accessed by changing the url to an international domain, e.g. .de, .fr etc

3. Sites highlighted in green were previously classed as hateful and have now been reclassified and un blocked as a result of our work.

4. Non clickable links indicate sites that no longer function but still continue to suffer the "hate" smear.

by John Kimble

NEWS UPDATE INCLUDING ANNOUNCEMENT ON MEN'S POLITICAL PARTY

Hi everyone - thank you for sending through new stories and reporting the broken link (restored hopefully below).

I haev also caught up on the debate on the comments in teh comments section about Mike Buchanan's announcement of a political party and the Daily Mail article so have updated this post with the news.

The Guardian - Education is leaving boys behind (Ally Fogg)

Daily Telegraph - Women's unwelcome Xmas present (Jo Swinson - Minsiter for Women and Equalities): As expected, anti-male feminists do not like equality unless it benefits women. Note Minister for "Women and equalities" - no mention of men. Not sure what to make of this  from actor David Webb

Daily Telegraph - Stuntman's wife charged with domestic abuse 

Daily Mail - Amy Winehouse's ex hits out at false rape accusation (Mark Duell)

Posted by Skimmington