Many readers emailed in today to highlight the article in the Guardian based on research by the Salvation Army that:
"Men account for more than two-fifths (41%) of adult victims of human trafficking in England and Wales helped by the Salvation Army, contrary to the public perception that the crime almost exclusively affects women."
The Men's Network's Glen Poole sums it all up here with a cracking commentary about the issue and how the Salvation Army won the contract because of their commitment to hep men and women. Eaves lost out because they were just about women.
What would be good to see is that more publicity is actually made about men trafficked for their labour. This case shows what happens about men as slaves and there was never much an outcry about it. Or this from the BBC. Perhaps we will see more leadership from the government in actually speaking out about it and when they do it is in the terms of that it affects men and women. No more debates and publicity campaigns just about women being trafficked.
The Salvation Army also carry out a lot of good work with homeless men and women and also men and women made homeless due to domestic abuse. This organisation is one that just goes about meeting it objectives to help people.
Posted by Skimmington
The Guardian does seem to be taking a slightly more even-handed stance on this type of issue lately - and that's something I'd never thought I'd say about the Graun. Compare this to the BBC, which despite being bound to a charter that stipulates it must be balanced and impartial it refuses to acknowledge men can ever be victims. It seems the growing influence of the MRM is being felt in some unlikely places; it's time the BBC caught up too.
Posted by: mananon | Friday, 27 April 2012 at 00:42
I wouldn't describe the Guardian as even handed. They do publish good stuff on occasions but then they veer right to the other end of the truthfulness scale, regularly lying through their teeth to score points against males (with the later position generally also the default one).
Some people argue the Guardian just tries to be controversial to get traffic, writing poisonous drivel one day and then later on cashing in on the "controversy" the next with follow up pieces disagreeing.
One can only describe that Guardian as even-handed once they start publishing the same amount of hate speech targeted at females as they do for males (though it would be best if they published none of either).
With regards to the Guardian chasing traffic (or anyone else for that matter) I propose a new policy of using screen grabs as links instead of promoting any content in question. This would be especially useful when linking to any articles where comments are not allowed. Ultimately we'd stop rewarding misandry with the traffic and advertising revenue these people depend on.
Posted by: John Kimble | Friday, 27 April 2012 at 01:07
The Guardian is a well known Feminist outlet don't kid yourself otherwise.
Well done for bringing this truth to the public domain, it must now be disseminated far and wide and thrust at every charity, local council and so forth who has been deliberately spouting female only statistics for agenda, fund-raising or political appeasement.
It would now be nice to hear from those previously responsible for the grossly inaccurate figures to explain themselves?
Posted by: ian | Friday, 27 April 2012 at 09:36
I was also thinking that this issue can be tied in with British Jobs as another repercussion of it. I have been reading so much about the labour of Britain being lazy etc and getting fed up with it while not taking jobs for pittance.
What a lot of people do not realise, is that these unfortunate trafficked men are very often being used in thousands of Jobs that take away labour from the British worker. Often in the Agricultural, catering, Building industries and the like.
How can a British worker compete with a slave?
Posted by: dave | Friday, 27 April 2012 at 09:51
John Kimble, Ian, that's why I said slightly more even handed. I don't deny it is still a mostly feminist newspaper, but at least there is a little more coverage of MRM related stories.
Posted by: mananon | Friday, 27 April 2012 at 14:38
Speaking from experience the Salvation Army are generally in the forefront of dealing with grass roots issues. Although clearly motivated by a religious ideology the Salvation Army, accross the country, is frequently the agency which works with any and all presenting with need. It is a paradox that supposedly secular organisations actually turn away people, for instance men, on the basis of an ideology (their version of feminism). Indeed I agree with those describing feminism as a "secular religion".
Anyway I'd like to put in a good word as they do a lot of work with the homeless and people coming out of institutions, and these are mainly men. At the same time they also do sterling work with women.
Posted by: Groan | Friday, 27 April 2012 at 16:47
Yeah true Groan, they do a good bit for homeless etc. manon, yeah ok...a bit...tiny tiny bit:-)
Posted by: ian | Friday, 27 April 2012 at 17:40
Good to know about this news. The opinions given by various people aware me more about the human trafficking in England and Wale. Thanks for sharing the stats about it.
Posted by: assassins | Saturday, 28 April 2012 at 10:15
This just occurred to me tonight.....
Not to take anything away from Claire Squires that died in the London Marathon, it is of course tragic and no less important than anyone else who has, but she is only the first "woman" to have died since it started in 1981. In that time ELEVEN men have died the same way but they didn't get between them all, the press coverage, public attention, after death contributions and overall "noise" she got.
Sorry but people should really think about that and try to see what is so very wrong about it. Even I had not realised it was Eleven men that had already died in the Marathon before her.
Again this is nothing to do with her or n any way trying to undermine her efforts and loss, it is about public perceptions, press treatment of genders and so forth.
Posted by: ian | Saturday, 28 April 2012 at 23:32
Exactly Ian. This was obvious to me as well. And yet the BBC produces an article asking why such a fuss was made about Claire Squires. Is it not obvious?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17862293
He is either too slow or too PC to make the connection to gender. Mind you he does write for Thought Of The Day so maybe he's just thick.
Posted by: Jon | Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 12:15
It is what some of us know as "agenda conditioning" or a "Social change agent exercise" call it from Feminism or a Marxist ideology, or both because one is very much to do with the other.
It is all about conditioning of public perceptions and values and changing ways of seeing things in order to slowly, like a frog in cold water being warmed up, change peoples thinking and make it every day thinking without them being aware of it.
That to me is something everyone should make themselves aware of and be concerned about, its how the Nazi's worked and just about every other communist or dictator system as come about.
Posted by: dave | Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 17:43
antimisandry.com another site now pin-blocked by Three 3G mobile broadband, also manwomanmyth...
BTW: Dave, You mean a social change agent like those perverting law to fulfil their sick misandrist agenda, like this:
http://www.cotwa.info/2012/04/student-newspaper-beyond-reasonable.html
How many innocent men will be wrongfully convicted under POE instead of being judged under BARD by yet another twisted females false allegations?
Posted by: ian | Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 18:01
ian, I posted at manwomanmyth about my own problem with Three mobile UK and their blocking (or trying to) acces to their site. Thank god for alternative browsers...
But I never had any problem until recently. There is an agenda out there; people are sitting up and taking notice of the MRM.
Posted by: mananon | Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 20:43
It's not the browser it's the URL that's blocked, you can always use web based proxies to get around any such blocking, try this page updated frequently. Just choose one that's open, go to the page and enter the URL that is blocked to go there...
http://osdir.com/ml/daily-web-proxies/
There is no stopping the MRM ya dry ol hateful marxist hags!! :-)
Posted by: ian | Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 23:30
That's what I meant ian. Thank god for proxies...
Posted by: mananon | Sunday, 29 April 2012 at 23:55
Got you mananon, just thought I would let some know who couldn't see those sites:-)....
anyhoo....the morning News celebrating women!
WOMAN dies at Goodwood track:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/9235451/Woman-racing-driver-dies-in-high-speed-crash-at-Goodwood.html
Must make news because it is a WOMAN, but nothing makes the news when it is a man of course. Nice to see the Telegraph is censoring and editing peoples comments in line with the agenda (clicks heels together in a martial manner);-)
Celebrating the achievements of young women today just before the tax payer starts footing her bill in state benefits again no doubt...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2136859/Lottery-winner-Callie-Rogers-wasted-1-9m-fortune-drink-drugs-expecting-twins.html?ITO=1490
Celebrating the Feminine "self" and slothly:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137095/Obesity-delayed-motherhood-fuel-rising-numbers-mothers-die-labour.html?ITO=1490
Celebrating the fallout of Feminism, again:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/9234631/Childrens-social-skills-eroded-by-decline-of-family-meals.html
That was only a quick look at two papers.....Good morning all:-)
Posted by: ian | Monday, 30 April 2012 at 07:52
P.S here is a funny I just made up after spotting something in the papers.......
"Equality is":
Loving her so much you let her do the wall of death with you...then stuffing a big arsed pissed off Lion in her car.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U9vgjidZcOE/T3j5CCo17kI/AAAAAAAAOIw/g3cTX7gPhMU/s1600/motorbike-wall-of-death-lion-m
Posted by: ian | Monday, 30 April 2012 at 08:05
You shouldn't have to use a proxy to access such fundamentally important sites, there's nothing remotely offensive about any of them. And anyway, you might use a proxy, but the general public, who are the people who really need to read these sites, will just give up and read something else.
Posted by: John Kimble | Tuesday, 01 May 2012 at 03:43
Doesn't matter if site's are being blocked,the men's right's movement is on a roll and unstoppable.
For every site blocked,ten more are starting up.
mensrights-help
Posted by: outdoors | Tuesday, 01 May 2012 at 04:02
John, those sites are VERY offensive to the "Agenda", the truth is always offensive to the tyrant! Luckily some of us MRA are well versed in Tech and will always find away to get around it.
Posted by: ian | Tuesday, 01 May 2012 at 11:39
@John Kimble You're dead right, but I can't change that. I've complained but they say their policy is their policy. Apparently I can unblock the over-18 websites but to do that I need to give them my credit card details... fat chance of that!
What 3 UK are doing amounts to censorship, but it seems that is perfectly OK in our "free" society...
Posted by: mananon | Tuesday, 01 May 2012 at 15:05
Vote with your feet, mananon, if you can. Tell 'em to take a hike.
Posted by: Jon | Tuesday, 01 May 2012 at 15:30
Manon has his facts correct, not just 3 but others are doing it too, so voting with your feet does not always work. Simply bypass their tech with your tech, it's that simple. I see last night a judge made a ruling that UK ISP's have to block torrent sites...yep, you can get around that too as above ;-)
The higher you build your walls...the taller I become..that should be the MRM mantra!
Posted by: ian | Tuesday, 01 May 2012 at 16:36
And just for the record the monstrous radfem hub (radical hub dot com) is still freely accessible (I won't link the URL. I don't want to soil this site's good name). So a website whose authors have posted articles endorsing the extermination of males is seen as suitable content, yet sites such as manwomanmyth, anti-misandry and others whos only "crimes" are calling for fair treatment of men and boys are beyond the pale. Makes sense...
Posted by: mananon | Tuesday, 01 May 2012 at 16:45
We need to gather a comprehensive list of what MRA sites are classed as over 18 and what feminist ones are not. I can sort of understand them blocking forums where there might be bad language, but I see zero justification for blocking http://www.manwomanmyth.com, it's an incredible educational resource.
I started a thread on this issue over at anti-misandry to let them know what's going on, although perhaps that's not the best venue if people can't access it.
Posted by: John Kimble | Tuesday, 01 May 2012 at 17:25
I clicked on John's link but it "couldn't find the server". That was because there was a comma immediately after the URL. Here it is without the superfluous comma - http://www.manwomanmyth.com
HTH
Posted by: Jenny | Tuesday, 01 May 2012 at 18:39
Maybe there is a case for a class action against ISP's for discrimination against MRM sites? It would depend though on the coding and format of the sites in question. The ISP's filters may filter out a site because it uses CGI code in forums as a flag, look at the feminist sites and the MRM sites and see what software they are using to build their forums and sites, if it is the same or the same format of code...then the censorship is deliberate or possibly based on bias, you have a case to present.
Posted by: ian | Tuesday, 01 May 2012 at 21:15
That link is still OK for me, on virginmedia.
Posted by: Jon | Wednesday, 02 May 2012 at 08:33
Things are getting amusing on the Telegraph today:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9239176/British-girls-among-heaviest-teenage-drinkers.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/9240134/Girls-put-off-exercise-for-life-by-PE-lessons.html#disqus_thread
One has only to read the comments of many Newspapers today to see the age of Feminism is slowly but surely coming to an end, the age old excuses of feminism wearing out and the legacy it has left women becoming apparent along with the attitudes of the general public slowly shifting.
Keep going lads, it ain't over till the fat lady sings and I ain't talking Jo Brand either:-)
Posted by: ian | Wednesday, 02 May 2012 at 10:43
http://www.youtube.com/user/manwomanmyth/videos
This is a direct link to all their videos (available on the blocked networks) on their youtube channel. These videos are a MUST WATCH for all men and real women alike. They should be shown in every School up and down the country, of course we know that won;t happen because Marxist feminism made sure that was one of the first places they snared to deliver their poison to the young minds.
Posted by: ian | Wednesday, 02 May 2012 at 10:48
Another article for thought:
Shocking at their age but the truth is many women have walked free from courts or with virtually no sentence for the same crime and same reasons.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137955/Italian-pensioner-strangled-82-year-old-wife-death-constant-nagging.html?ITO=1490
Posted by: ian | Wednesday, 02 May 2012 at 11:50
News article for the end of the day:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138394/Body-baby-boy-recycling-plant.html?ITO=1490
Of course she is considered, "Vulnerable" and needs support, bullshit how about Murderer? It is a crime and she should be treated for either murder if she killed it before or because of dumping it there or if natural death disposing of a body illegally. I am sick of this "vulnerable" crap
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138225/Mother-beat-death-seven-year-old-son-torching-dead-body-try-hide-crime.html?ITO=1490
Lets watch and see what sentence she gets and he gets compared to when it is the other way around shall we?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-17916514
False woman rape accuser given sixteen weeks SUSPENDED!! ..and the police thought that was good enough? PATHETIC!
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/324017
Good article.
Posted by: ian | Wednesday, 02 May 2012 at 18:51