HYPOCRISY ABOUT MEN ON WOMEN'S HOUR

Dave kindly pointed out in a recent comments section that Radio 4 Women's Hour (35:28 minutes in) on Thursday had a debate about the objectifying of male and female actresses and how hypocritical it was for women and feminists to complain about the objectifying of women when so many women objectified men.

It is worth listening to the hyprocrisy of Lucy Cavendish that shows how modern-day feminists want their cake and eat it.

Posted by Skimmington

Comments

[ScaaarBeeek]

Ah, the hypocrisy of feminists!

There's a domestic violence campaign going on -- called One Billion Rising or some crap. Labour MP Stella Creasy is playing a leading role in it.

As you will have guessed, the focus is ENTIRELY female focused. There are a couple of Twitter pages on it. #OBRUK, started by Creasy and another, #1billionrising.

So I sent in a number of tweets, with links, one of which was to Dr. Murray Straus's work showing that DV is 50% female instigated.

Reaction? You probably once again guessed it. Feminist hypocrisy: sustained attempts to flood the pages with feminist tweets to push mine down to less prominent positions where they won't be seen.

And Creasy later even referred to the facts as "bile"!

Feminists don't care about helping the couples affected. They are only seeking advantage.

[Dave]

Thanks for linking this, Skimmington. I understand that many people can’t see a correlation between power, supremacy, dominance, respect and, conversely, inferiority, weakness, disrespect etc. with that of objectification. But it’s a rather important issue that has underlying social effects with regard to how the sexes see each other. Personally, I think men have been far more extensively objectified than women, both now and in the past, it’s just that it’s not been recognised as much due to toleration factors i.e. men appear to tolerate the aspect of male objectification far more than women tolerate female objectification. I think it comes down to emotion in the end. Pornography is a classic example of how men all nod in agreement when the media spouts about how degrading it is to girls and women. Yes, it is degrading, but what about the boys? Why are we all so indoctrinated to think that only the females get mentally damaged, or that only the males get pleasure? It seems odd to me because there is always a counter argument, but for some reason it never gets discussed in the media. I hear people talking about how one woman cavorting on the stage of the x factor is soooo bad while a dozen near-naked men cavorting nearby goes totally ignored. In millions of homes there must be thousands of females becoming conscious of their bodies. And in millions of homes there must be thousands of males becoming conscious of their bodies. Yet who gets all the sympathy and privileged protection tactics?
Women are much cleverer these days, too, at deflecting the issue by using smart, shaming tactics which appears to fuel the barrage of male objectification that pervades our society today. Mark Lawson’s cinema analogy extends far beyond the cinema to TV soaps, dramas, films, documentaries etc. and also into real life.
I’m really not surprised that as the objectification of women over the last few decades has decreased, the relative level of perceived supremacy and power has increased. Whereas the objectification of men has increased whilst society’s perception with regard to their respect and dominance has severely weakened. Can nobody else see this trend?
It’s pretty obvious to me that women are using objectification as a tool to undermine boys and men in a very covert style which most men are allowing to happen right under their very noses. I can hardly bring myself to watch TV anymore. The way men are portrayed as outright idiots in commercials one minute, then stripped to the waste the next, sometimes as fat, bumbling morons, other times as beefed up meat for the titillation of the female viewer actually makes me sick.
Just like Mark says, there is an obvious double-standard going on here and I struggle to see why men are allowing this to occur when the damage it’s doing is nothing short of severe. I’m really happy that Mark has put his neck on the line to speak out about such things. He’s 10 years ahead of his time in my opinion and the quicker men start to speak out about such basic matters as objectification, the quicker they’ll regain some respect from society.
I hope you all remember my comments when in about 10 years time (sooner I hope!), Ofcom will be forced to rewrite their ridiculously biased policies to protect the male sex against the current wave of male sexualised (but frustratingly ignored) exploitation.