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Monday, 11 June 2012

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ian

Over on women's health week we can see how 50 years of feminism has worked wonders. 200,000 babies killed in one year. What garbage they are, can't keep their legs closed, too selfish to be Mothers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2157230/Nearly-200-000-women-abortion-year--repeat-procedure.html?ITO=1490

ian


"Many of the charities lobby for the pet causes of politicians, according to the Institute of Economic Affairs. The environment, public health, foreign aid, inequality and women’s rights are areas that have been ‘particularly blessed’."

With now more than 190,000 charities, most of them fronts for big earnings and perverting politics, it is about time the whole 3rd sector was torn down and restructured, so no charity can do anything that does not help someone with a genuine need they cannot undertake themselves. The 3rd sector, mostly at the tax payers expense has been abused relentlessly by feminists for nothing more than supporting and furthering Misandry.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2157373/The-27-000-charities-survive-taxpayers-cash-lobby-pet-causes-politicians.html#ixzz1xTHFpwSM

ian

That's 547 baby killings a DAY, billed to the tax payer. Costing the NHS app. 1 Million pounds per week.

Is it any wonder when we can see the cavalier attitude of some women towards convenient child killing, talking as if they are making a quick trip to the Supermarket, and those being censored who think it is a horrid practise which denies men any say or as to why the tax payer should be paying for women who can't keep their legs closed. (comments taken from NHS site)

Spor Bishkek said on 07 April 2012
I had an abortion at 8 weeks.
It was really easy and the inconvenience of travelling to and from the clinic was more of an issue that the simple procedure.
I am so relieved it was so easy and completed so quickly.

Simon Nicholls said on 25 March 2012
Why is it that any remotely anti abortion comments questioning NHS practice and procedure are removed? This is the UK!

Meanwhile Men have had to fight tooth and nail just to get a pill for prostrate cancer, something they did not bring on themselves.

Jon

ian, having an abortion at 8 weeks is NOT baby killing. Technically, ANY abortion is not baby killing since it is a foetus, not a baby, until it is born. Certainly the small clump of cells that a foetus is at 8 weeks is nothing comparable to a 'baby'.

I do think women should have the right to abortion but I also think men should have the right to legally surrender parental responsibility also, should they wish to.

Abortion is a controversial issue with the potential to divide MRAs. I only know that, if I was able to become pregnant I would certainly NOT be happy with being forced to bring a child to term against my will. So why do I have the right to force that on another?

ian

A foetus is still a life. The bigger picture is what is important though. 200,000 what does that say about women here? I agree with you about the parental responsibility but I do not agree a woman should have sole right to abort if the Man wants it, if he does then of course it should be his responsibility. You are falling into the trap of sole rights to reproduction, something the feminist has been abusing for years Jon.

ian

In fact Jon I would also say, in the case of a pregnancy, if the woman aborts in a planned pregnancy she should be liable for any costs to the Man.

Most Men knowing a baby is planned and on the way will sometimes make huge career changes, buy and sell many things and make huge life-changing decisions in order to prepare.

Kind of like a breach of promise. Kind of like engagement and breach of promise years back. Something that should be law IMHO.

ian

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9325306/Statins-cause-fatigue-and-should-be-prescribed-with-care.html

So hands up, who was punting this story? From Angry harry who was pushing it to the MRA, or is this story a lie?

Dave

I hope you're watching the vids from this guy about misandry in the media because it sure is very accurate about how the media portrays men and women in a different way. It really is no wonder that men and boys are doing so poorly when they have these subliminal messages rammed down their throats every single day!

But do you know what? Men, in general, seem to put up with it. Very few of them complain, and hence it's very likely that things will stay the same for a while longer, I'm afraid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoScF_hyXRQ&feature=relmfu

John Kimble

"Go to your GP surgery - there'll be a rack of leaflets for women, teenagers, children, the elderly etc but nothing for men"

Indeed. I recently had to visit the doctor and I saw an NHS cancer awareness campaign. It featured 3 different posters which were found on various noticeboards (they were different colours but clearly all from the same campaign). I forget the third cancer type, but one was for for bowel cancer and anotehr for breast cancer. Needless to say I had a good look around for the elusive fourth cancer poster concerning prostate cancer awareness, but either the radical feminists had set fire to them all or they were never published in the first place.

Dave

Another awesome vid on violence against men. Unbelievable!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWaYf6F11WQ&feature=relmfu

ian

All correct Dave and your right about Men just putting up with it. I have torn things off walls before now in offence at them but most men won;t do nothing.

ian

More health misandry?

I have never seen any proof that older fathers create higher risk of genetic disorders? Older Mothers definatley at high risk of it, but not Fathers to my knowledge. More feminist twaddle as we know they HATE older blokes with younger women because they hate the idea of their whining selves being cast aside and not having any power with their pussy to play with to hold over the man :-)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2157778/Children-older-fathers-live-longer-despite-increased-risk-genetic-disorders.html?ITO=1490

ian

Actually regards the above article. I insist clinical trials are undertaken forthwith, I am looking for volunteers between 20 and 26, preferably Asian or Blondes.

We must do our bit for Men and to dispell this propaganda. I will sacrifice myself for the cause and undertake this difficult task :-)

ian

Policeman undertaking "white-knight" syndrome? Beating up a man badly who was having a fling with coppers ex-wife and only had an argument. Every one of those police should be doing time, it is an outrage beyond belief there "was no case to answer" by the IPCC.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2157591/Stephen-Whenary-dragged-shower-19-police-beaten-thrown-outdoors.html?ICO=most_read_module

ian

Another triumph of feminism. While the mothers indulge on a blanket of self-entitlement, grandparents are having to step in to stop kids going into care.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/9326011/60000-grandparents-forced-to-give-up-work-to-bring-up-grandchildren.html

skimmington

Your comments are getting really inflammatory and anti-women

To talk about 'women keep their legs crossed' is a nonsense statement - as there has to be a man involved somewhere - takes two to tango!

It just gives fuel to those who want to smear those of us who want equality for men.

There is a danger they will point to your comments and think everyone who writes or reads this site has these extreme views.

The tone and content is not helpful to the cause.

Also there are a few readers/contributors who have not been contributing recently and I think your agression is putting them off.

ian

Rubbish Skimmington. There are many steps not to get pregnant and to avoid such a gross amount of a distasteful practise. It is fact keeping their legs closed is one of them, saying no, contraception and so forth are also available of course.

It's "their choice" isn't that what we are all brow beating with, well it's "their choice" to keep their legs shut, say no, use contraception or if you want to have sex..take responsibility for yourself. Why should the tax payer pay a million pounds a week for the abortions that are basically being used as contraception by those without a sense of personal responsibility.

That is a simple fact. I won't play "watch my P.C" when it's the truth.

P.S We all know you hardly ever got comments on here anyway, take a look back, so spare me that one Skimmington.

ian

As for the 60,000 grandparents would you want to stake your house on it nearly all of them are a result of mothers?

Calling them "extreme" views is frankly ridiculous. Asking for clinics to be blown up is extreme and I have never said anything like that. I have never known an MRM site that appeals to the usual type of P.C that I would expect from feminists.

ian

" the Men's Health Forum perhaps need to be like them and be more aggressive."
- Skimmington.


....Er, you was saying?

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Skimmington

There is aggression and there is aggression.

One is to campaign aggressively such as the Men's Health Forum campaigning more aggressively about the fact that GP surgeries are not open on Saturday morning by lobbying properly and fearlessly (one form of aggression) - or telling all doctors they are bxstards - which is aggressive language which is what I clearly mean by the legs closed issue.

John Kimble

Ian your energy and enthusiasm is fantastic. Provocative ideas can be great too but it would be better if you could just change you choice of words at times please.

So many of your comments are so well written, but our critics will jump on terms like "pussy" or suggesting women keep their legs closed. Far more importantly, they detract from your posts anyway and give this place a less professional feel. One issue with the legs closed comment is that it's somewhat anti-sex (which to me is gender feminist territory) and it's inaccurate because the real issue is women failing to use contraception rather them having sex.

We want to reach as wide an audience as possible and to be the most respected Men's Rights blog in the country. We want boys to be able to read the blog and learn about the problems they're going to face in life and the things no school would dare tell them. A heat of the moment slip up is fine, as are controversial well argued points but please don't use terms that might end up with the site being censored or phrases that could be easily misinterpreted.

ianian

Ok John, I shall call it a foo-foo then.

Good time for a comparison? U.S MRM sites and UK ones. Which get by far the greater comments, activity, achieve more and have a far greater audience? A Voice for men is one example I guess, I do not see them worrying about such P.C things all the time, probably because they are smarter and know P.C is a feminist device used to stifle opposing speech? They have original articles, open debate and a variety of views and tones. Obviously nobody is saying you should be F-ing and C-ing all over the place but a few colloquial terms here and there certainly should not cause near hysteria!

You say Boys reading this? Most of the youngsters today would be in a Coma reading this!

An approach a bit more like AVFM is more likley to achieve this bigger audience and reach boys, then James May sat in his shed regurgitating Newspaper articles? To be honest the only UK MRM site that seems even half way there is Manwomanmyth. Excellent videos and debate which, while not being quite as "in your face" as AVFM, does not cow-tow to the P.C too much either. As I said previously, you will get nowhere if you operate by parameters that are created and used by those you wish to oppose.


Too much Clarkson, not always good but sometimes required, but too much James may, and you have a web site for narcoleptic's and stand still.

ian

Oh and other Jon, at 8 weeks the foetus has arms, legs, working organs, a heart, basic neural pathways connecting in the brain and even taste buds forming on the tongue. So a bit more than a "clump of cells" That is without even going into any religious or philosophical concepts of "Soul".

No I am not religious either, yes I think it is a disgusting undertaking and abortion is, IMO, effectively killing a life and being used as a contraception too much by a society that makes too many excuses for immoral behaviour.

ian

Ironically while all you worry about is "foo-foo" not one so called Man here has even mentioned, debated or spoke of the story I put up about 19 coppers beating the crap out of a man because he argued with a women, then to have not one copper charged with anything?

Talk about priorities ...

Jon

"Oh and other Jon, at 8 weeks the foetus has arms, legs, working organs, a heart, basic neural pathways connecting in the brain and even taste buds forming on the tongue. So a bit more than a "clump of cells"

I'm not au-fait with the details but I believe it is possible to draw a line between 'clump of cells' and a 'proper' foetus.

Eg. I see nothing particularly immoral about 'the morning after pill'.

But these are details to be honest regarding the timings. But I'd much rather see 10 morning-after pills taken than have 10 extra chavs on the streets, contributing nothing and perpetuating the problem by having unprotected sex themselves.

I'm not religious either, and don't think religious arguments (eg 'souls') should be used to influence laws that affect all, religious and non-religious. We probably agree on this?

ian

Hmm, we both may not be religious but one cannot discount the possibility, as it is no more unproven then it is proven. Morning after pill is somewhat different to Abortion Jon.

Anyway, I'll make you, John, Jon and skimmington a deal.

I'll James may down a bit...if you lot try a few steps of the Clarkson :-)

ian

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2159011/Cosmetic-surgeon-stars-pressured-woman-going-knife-offering-discounts-liposuction-procedure.html?ITO=1490

....for now however I would like to say these women are dumber than a box of turds! I have as much respect for them as a dog stool on the side of the pavement. Why O' why are they seen as some kind of "victim" because they are to weak and lazy to diet/workout and undergo plastic surgery instead. Always someone else's fault of course, "they made me do it" blah blah blah!

I am supposed to respect women like this? NEVER!

Jon

"Morning after pill is somewhat different to Abortion Jon."

Conceptually not, is what I think, but hey we can agree to differ.

I can do a bit of Clarkson sometimes if I think it will work. I have no problem disrespecting feminists, as respect is earned. However skimmington has earned my respect so I self-censor out of respect to him and his blog.

What I want to create, which you have alluded to ian, is a 'boycott list' where companies who consistently put down men or who consistently support sexist initiatives (eg Tesco with Race for Life) are boycotted by everybody on the list. With Facebook and other social media, plus the growing discontent amongst men (and women) about this nonsense, I think something like this could really take off. There could be a '2 strikes and you're out' policy since I think companies should be able to have the chance to react to feedback. But overall the principle is sound and could work. What do people think?

I do this myself anyway. I'll never shop at Boots again, for example.

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